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Exclusive Interview with Pearl Mackie
Pearls of Wisdom
Fresh from playing Doctor Who’s companion, Pearl Mackie is appearing on stage in The Birthday Party. We caught up between rehearsals to chat fans, first days and fitting out her first home. A few days ago, Pearl Mackie tells me, while she was out in Brixton, a young fan chased her down the road. Even though her stint as Doctor Who’s companion Bill is now over, being recognised is inevitable. You don’t get to appear on “one of the biggest shows in the country, potentially in the world,” she explains, without becoming something of a household name. But it’s something the actress is still getting used to. “It is sometimes glorious, and sometimes, when I don’t have enough make-up on, it is a bit disconcerting,” she confirms. “This girl was so breathless. She didn’t have her phone or a piece of paper, and I didn’t have anything either, so we went into a shoe shop and they gave her a bit of paper and I signed it for her. It was so nice to be able to do that.” They got chatting about what Pearl was doing there, and she explained, to the teenager’s delight, that she had grown up locally. “Hopefully she went away from that thinking that she could do what I did too. And that’s a nice thing to be able to pass on to her, as a young black teenager, to know that I was just like her,” she grins.People watcher
Pearl can’t be too judgmental about being looked at on the street because she admits to being something of a people watcher herself. “I have always been fascinated by other people. I’ll walk down the road and look at people, and think: I wonder what it’s like to be them. We are all given a very different set of opportunities and circumstances, and within those constraints we are trying to carve out our lives in the best way we can.” It is this fascination with the lives of others that led her to acting: “It’s fantastic. You get to pretend to be somebody else! And as I’ve got older, I’ve realised that it can also be an incredible way to bring light to issues, and stories, that aren’t necessarily told that much. It allows people to understand things on a more personal level,” she explains.
The Birthday Party
Pearl’s story of the moment is Harold Pinter’s The Birthday Party. Ian Rickson’s production at The Harold Pinter Theatre opened on the 9 January, on the 60th anniversary of the play’s first performance, with a cast including Toby Jones, Stephen Mangan and Zoë Wanamaker. Speaking of meeting her colleagues for the first time, Pearl says: “It is quite an all-star cast, so I was very nervous to meet these really well respected, and loved and talented actors. But everyone was so lovely, such a dream.” For an actor, that feeling of apprehension around starting a new job never really goes away, Pearl tells me. “It’s like the first day of school all over again,” she explains. “You’re like, oh God, I don’t know anyone, and am I actually good at my job? And apparently that never goes away, no matter how experienced you are.”An irresistible part
Of course, early reviews indicate that Pearl has nothing to worry about. She plays the part of Lulu, a friend of the couple who own the B&B where the action is set. It was, she says, an irresistible part. “It’s a wonderful piece of theatre; Pinter was a genius. And the director, Ian Rickson, is fantastic. I’ve been a fan of his for years. And he is such a lovely man, very engaging and passionate. He commands attention, but in a way that you want to give it to him.” Add to that the fact that the play is being staged in the West End, and Pearl is pretty made up about the job. “It is really amazing to be playing a part like that in my hometown!” she tells me. “I had always wanted to do a play in the West End. And there is something quite romantic about doing a play in the winter, shivering at the stage door in the dark…”Stage or screen?
A graduate of Bristol Old Vic Theatre School, Pearl had worked largely in theatre (with credits including The Crucible; The Comedy of Errors; and a long stint in The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time) when she landed the part of Bill in Doctor Who. Does she prefer stage or screen? Neither, she is quick to assure me, going on to explain that: “Part of the joy of being an actor is that you get to experience these different mediums, and tell different stories in different ways. I would hate to limit myself to just one of those ways. If I am lucky enough to have a career that sees me working across all of them then that would be amazing.”